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		<title>By: Semantics &#171; Riding the ripple</title>
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		<dc:creator>Semantics &#171; Riding the ripple</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Feb 2010 23:58:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Semantics  February 26, 2010 Jon Leave a comment Go to comments    I’ve found myself compelled to contribute to a few online discussions recently, both I hate to admit, sparked off by nothing more that my own intolerance. One here and another here. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Semantics  February 26, 2010 Jon Leave a comment Go to comments    I’ve found myself compelled to contribute to a few online discussions recently, both I hate to admit, sparked off by nothing more that my own intolerance. One here and another here. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Jon Weedon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jon Weedon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Feb 2010 23:35:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Very nice David - not come across that one before. 

Quite by chance, not long after writing the above comment I was reading Air Malta&#039;s in-flight magazine and had to smile when I saw an article on the evolution of music. The opening paragraph very helpfully informed the readers that music &quot;is an art form with the medium of sound based around vibrations&quot;. 

Arrrrgghhhhh! Music is music for God&#039;s sake! Some things just don&#039;t need to be defined like that do they? Rant over ;-)

Jon</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very nice David &#8211; not come across that one before. </p>
<p>Quite by chance, not long after writing the above comment I was reading Air Malta&#8217;s in-flight magazine and had to smile when I saw an article on the evolution of music. The opening paragraph very helpfully informed the readers that music &#8220;is an art form with the medium of sound based around vibrations&#8221;. </p>
<p>Arrrrgghhhhh! Music is music for God&#8217;s sake! Some things just don&#8217;t need to be defined like that do they? Rant over <img src='http://www.davidzinger.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Jon</p>
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		<title>By: David Zinger</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Zinger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Feb 2010 18:49:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jon,

Walt Whitman said it better than I ever could: &quot;Do I contradict myself, very well, I contradict myself. I am large, I contain multitudes.&quot; And if I keep engaging in eating like I am I will get larger.

David</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jon,</p>
<p>Walt Whitman said it better than I ever could: &#8220;Do I contradict myself, very well, I contradict myself. I am large, I contain multitudes.&#8221; And if I keep engaging in eating like I am I will get larger.</p>
<p>David</p>
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		<title>By: Jon Weedon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jon Weedon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Feb 2010 16:23:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Having a rant based on nothing more than semantics drives me up the wall ;-)

Sorry David - couldn&#039;t resist it. Only joking of course!

But then again, given your prediction in your excellent &#039;2020 Vision&#039; piece just 5 days after this post,  that over the next decade &quot;The search for the single holy grail definition of employee engagement will be abandoned.....&quot; it is somewhat ironic that here you appear to be embarking on a similar quest to re-define another piece of common employee engagement parlance, which let&#039;s face it, we all know what it means.

I do think we get a bit too hung up on words and definitions for our own good sometimes, when really our collective creativity and energy should be addressing strategies and actions.

I enjoyed the rant immensely, thanks!

Jon</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Having a rant based on nothing more than semantics drives me up the wall <img src='http://www.davidzinger.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Sorry David &#8211; couldn&#8217;t resist it. Only joking of course!</p>
<p>But then again, given your prediction in your excellent &#8217;2020 Vision&#8217; piece just 5 days after this post,  that over the next decade &#8220;The search for the single holy grail definition of employee engagement will be abandoned&#8230;..&#8221; it is somewhat ironic that here you appear to be embarking on a similar quest to re-define another piece of common employee engagement parlance, which let&#8217;s face it, we all know what it means.</p>
<p>I do think we get a bit too hung up on words and definitions for our own good sometimes, when really our collective creativity and energy should be addressing strategies and actions.</p>
<p>I enjoyed the rant immensely, thanks!</p>
<p>Jon</p>
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		<title>By: David Zinger</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Zinger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Feb 2010 18:45:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mike:

Well said about the telescope vision. The occasional rant feels good for the soul and soles of the feet to keep moving.

David</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mike:</p>
<p>Well said about the telescope vision. The occasional rant feels good for the soul and soles of the feet to keep moving.</p>
<p>David</p>
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		<title>By: Mike Cook</title>
		<link>http://www.davidzinger.com/can-i-drive-the-problem-with-employee-engagement-drivers-6008/comment-page-1/#comment-3726</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike Cook</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Feb 2010 17:39:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>David, I feel the same way when managers talk about &quot;driving&quot; results. The dominant/admired/modeled management profile, at least in the US for many years has been the High D, the driver. Many crimes have been committed in the name of  &quot;driving&quot; results and given that we continue to address engagement from the outcomes rather than the sources, (think looking the wrong way through a telescope) it is no wonder we continue to address engagement like something that can be controlled. Rant on!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>David, I feel the same way when managers talk about &#8220;driving&#8221; results. The dominant/admired/modeled management profile, at least in the US for many years has been the High D, the driver. Many crimes have been committed in the name of  &#8220;driving&#8221; results and given that we continue to address engagement from the outcomes rather than the sources, (think looking the wrong way through a telescope) it is no wonder we continue to address engagement like something that can be controlled. Rant on!</p>
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		<title>By: Abhishek</title>
		<link>http://www.davidzinger.com/can-i-drive-the-problem-with-employee-engagement-drivers-6008/comment-page-1/#comment-3723</link>
		<dc:creator>Abhishek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Feb 2010 00:14:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for citing my blog post, David!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for citing my blog post, David!</p>
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		<title>By: David Zinger</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Zinger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Feb 2010 20:09:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Val,
What a nice questions to ask. It is okay to rant but we should have an alternative.
I hope this sounds robust enough and sincere.
I call them invitations.
We invite others though our actions and initiatives to engage.
We respect their choices.
And of course, if they fail to engage or disengage others we may even invite them to change or leave the organization.
Don&#039;t know if that makes sense in type but it does in my head and heart.
David</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Val,<br />
What a nice questions to ask. It is okay to rant but we should have an alternative.<br />
I hope this sounds robust enough and sincere.<br />
I call them invitations.<br />
We invite others though our actions and initiatives to engage.<br />
We respect their choices.<br />
And of course, if they fail to engage or disengage others we may even invite them to change or leave the organization.<br />
Don&#8217;t know if that makes sense in type but it does in my head and heart.<br />
David</p>
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		<title>By: Val Kinjerski</title>
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		<dc:creator>Val Kinjerski</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Feb 2010 19:54:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great point David. But what do you call them?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great point David. But what do you call them?</p>
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		<title>By: Terrence Seamon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Terrence Seamon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Feb 2010 18:57:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nice rant, David. Feel better now? ;-)
Terry</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice rant, David. Feel better now? <img src='http://www.davidzinger.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /><br />
Terry</p>
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