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		<title>By: MAPping Company Success</title>
		<link>http://www.davidzinger.com/employee-disengagement-does-not-exist-1384/comment-page-1/#comment-3574</link>
		<dc:creator>MAPping Company Success</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jan 2010 21:53:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Truths About Employee Engagement by Miki Saxon  Dave Zinger wrote a post on employee DISengagement, saying that it doesn&#8217;t exist; that it isn&#8217;t the employees who are disengaged, rather [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Truths About Employee Engagement by Miki Saxon  Dave Zinger wrote a post on employee DISengagement, saying that it doesn&#8217;t exist; that it isn&#8217;t the employees who are disengaged, rather [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Owl</title>
		<link>http://www.davidzinger.com/employee-disengagement-does-not-exist-1384/comment-page-1/#comment-1888</link>
		<dc:creator>Owl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Dec 2008 01:07:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s the problem - not recognizing the importance of culture. Most CxOs don&#039;t either - and since they don&#039;t believe they are IMPERFECT - they don&#039;t change. &quot;Dummy, underlings, you change into US! [CxOs - CEO, CFO, COO, etc.]). For TRUE CHANGE - EVERTHING AND EVERYONE MUST CHANGE - otherwise, all these ideas are just fluff - USELESS FLUFF!!!!...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s the problem &#8211; not recognizing the importance of culture. Most CxOs don&#8217;t either &#8211; and since they don&#8217;t believe they are IMPERFECT &#8211; they don&#8217;t change. &#8220;Dummy, underlings, you change into US! [CxOs - CEO, CFO, COO, etc.]). For TRUE CHANGE &#8211; EVERTHING AND EVERYONE MUST CHANGE &#8211; otherwise, all these ideas are just fluff &#8211; USELESS FLUFF!!!!&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Simple Meditation</title>
		<link>http://www.davidzinger.com/employee-disengagement-does-not-exist-1384/comment-page-1/#comment-1818</link>
		<dc:creator>Simple Meditation</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Nov 2008 05:35:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Excellent content and style...keep up the good work!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Excellent content and style&#8230;keep up the good work!</p>
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		<title>By: Tony Simons</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tony Simons</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Nov 2008 00:05:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey, David, Scot and others--

I wrote &quot;The Integrity Dividend,&quot; so your mention popped up on my Google Alerts.  

You are on the right track, of course.  The scent of hypocrisy is a sure-fire damper on engagement.  Likewise the perception that management has broken promises, and that those promises are undiscussable for fear of consequences.

It gets tricky when you realize these management failings are usually not due to character deficiency:  living by your word, and being seen as doing so, is WAY WAY harder than it might seem.  It calls on a discipline and a skill set that demands focused attention.

The full title of the book is &quot;The Integrity Dividend: Leading by the Power of Your Word,&quot; and I have a website at http://integritydividend.com.  

Happy to weigh in.  I hope I was able to move the conversation forward.

--Tony Simons</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey, David, Scot and others&#8211;</p>
<p>I wrote &#8220;The Integrity Dividend,&#8221; so your mention popped up on my Google Alerts.  </p>
<p>You are on the right track, of course.  The scent of hypocrisy is a sure-fire damper on engagement.  Likewise the perception that management has broken promises, and that those promises are undiscussable for fear of consequences.</p>
<p>It gets tricky when you realize these management failings are usually not due to character deficiency:  living by your word, and being seen as doing so, is WAY WAY harder than it might seem.  It calls on a discipline and a skill set that demands focused attention.</p>
<p>The full title of the book is &#8220;The Integrity Dividend: Leading by the Power of Your Word,&#8221; and I have a website at <a href="http://integritydividend.com" rel="nofollow">http://integritydividend.com</a>.  </p>
<p>Happy to weigh in.  I hope I was able to move the conversation forward.</p>
<p>&#8211;Tony Simons</p>
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		<title>By: David Zinger</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Zinger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Nov 2008 12:31:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Scot 
You always provide such rich commenting and information. Excellent points my friend and I will need to read the Integrity Dividend...thanks for the tip.
David</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Scot<br />
You always provide such rich commenting and information. Excellent points my friend and I will need to read the Integrity Dividend&#8230;thanks for the tip.<br />
David</p>
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		<title>By: Scot Herrick</title>
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		<dc:creator>Scot Herrick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Nov 2008 06:07:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great post, David.

There is a great book out there called &quot;The Integrity Dividend&quot; and it addresses how integrity engages employees (and profits). People call this &quot;trust,&quot; but it is really integrity -- you say you will do something and then you do it. 

People may not agree with what you are doing, but they do agree that you are being honest.

I would love to get behind a corporate mission that did something other than make money for the company. But, I quickly come to my senses.

In a world where executive management will lay you off in a cold-blooded minute -- while keeping their lofty bonuses and contractual severance agreements -- why would an employee actually trust what management is telling them?

Bailouts, but still huge bonuses. 50,000 people laid off at Citigroup, but management is still saying the company is great.

Until this sort of disconnect between what management says and what they do, employee engagement is elusive at best. 

To the detriment of both management and employees.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great post, David.</p>
<p>There is a great book out there called &#8220;The Integrity Dividend&#8221; and it addresses how integrity engages employees (and profits). People call this &#8220;trust,&#8221; but it is really integrity &#8212; you say you will do something and then you do it. </p>
<p>People may not agree with what you are doing, but they do agree that you are being honest.</p>
<p>I would love to get behind a corporate mission that did something other than make money for the company. But, I quickly come to my senses.</p>
<p>In a world where executive management will lay you off in a cold-blooded minute &#8212; while keeping their lofty bonuses and contractual severance agreements &#8212; why would an employee actually trust what management is telling them?</p>
<p>Bailouts, but still huge bonuses. 50,000 people laid off at Citigroup, but management is still saying the company is great.</p>
<p>Until this sort of disconnect between what management says and what they do, employee engagement is elusive at best. </p>
<p>To the detriment of both management and employees.</p>
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		<title>By: David Zinger</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Zinger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Nov 2008 23:08:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rich,
Excellent comment about empowerment and damage blame and shame. I appreciate your language choices and the impact on engagement.
David</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rich,<br />
Excellent comment about empowerment and damage blame and shame. I appreciate your language choices and the impact on engagement.<br />
David</p>
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		<title>By: Rich DiGirolamo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rich DiGirolamo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Nov 2008 16:23:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>David, could not agree with your points more, but I think there is something else that needs to be addressed............. Damage Control.

Employees have been beaten up for taking risks and attempting new initiatives after they have been &quot;empowered&quot; to do so. When the outcome is not successful, blame and shame is offered rather than learning; creating environments where engagement falls apart. Damage control needs to be done to this group - and perhaps first.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>David, could not agree with your points more, but I think there is something else that needs to be addressed&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;. Damage Control.</p>
<p>Employees have been beaten up for taking risks and attempting new initiatives after they have been &#8220;empowered&#8221; to do so. When the outcome is not successful, blame and shame is offered rather than learning; creating environments where engagement falls apart. Damage control needs to be done to this group &#8211; and perhaps first.</p>
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		<title>By: David Zinger</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Zinger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Nov 2008 07:23:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ah, that is the key: living up to their word...well said...as we are all employees for the most part...I guess you could say living up to our word.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ah, that is the key: living up to their word&#8230;well said&#8230;as we are all employees for the most part&#8230;I guess you could say living up to our word.</p>
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		<title>By: Miki</title>
		<link>http://www.davidzinger.com/employee-disengagement-does-not-exist-1384/comment-page-1/#comment-1787</link>
		<dc:creator>Miki</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Nov 2008 06:13:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree that trust needs to be earned, but it needs to be earned on both sides—and the organization needs to earn it first. &quot;Trust us&quot; no longer cuts it in the corporate world.

The organization and the manager earn it by clearly telling people exactly what&#039;s expected of them and what they should expect from the organization and from the individual manager and then living up to their word.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree that trust needs to be earned, but it needs to be earned on both sides—and the organization needs to earn it first. &#8220;Trust us&#8221; no longer cuts it in the corporate world.</p>
<p>The organization and the manager earn it by clearly telling people exactly what&#8217;s expected of them and what they should expect from the organization and from the individual manager and then living up to their word.</p>
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		<title>By: David Zinger</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Zinger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Nov 2008 19:49:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Corinne:

Trust is such a key. And now we have some interesting research on &quot;honest signals.&quot; I plan to write about this shortly. Good point about the course and energy to engage.

David</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Corinne:</p>
<p>Trust is such a key. And now we have some interesting research on &#8220;honest signals.&#8221; I plan to write about this shortly. Good point about the course and energy to engage.</p>
<p>David</p>
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		<title>By: Corinne</title>
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		<dc:creator>Corinne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Nov 2008 19:39:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So hide behind &quot;culture&quot; because you have not got the courage or energy to engage. You need to be trusted and that needs to be earned and that is something that YOU can work on.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So hide behind &#8220;culture&#8221; because you have not got the courage or energy to engage. You need to be trusted and that needs to be earned and that is something that YOU can work on.</p>
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		<title>By: Owl</title>
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		<dc:creator>Owl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Nov 2008 01:35:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Finally, someone who&#039;s got it right - It&#039;s the corporate culture, Dummy!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Finally, someone who&#8217;s got it right &#8211; It&#8217;s the corporate culture, Dummy!!!</p>
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		<title>By: David Zinger</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Zinger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Nov 2008 12:15:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ah to have the voices of everyone in the workplace contributing to engagement. Now that is an organization that is transforming itself into a community of engaged practice.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ah to have the voices of everyone in the workplace contributing to engagement. Now that is an organization that is transforming itself into a community of engaged practice.</p>
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		<title>By: Miki</title>
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		<dc:creator>Miki</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Nov 2008 02:43:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Of course engagement/disengagement is organizational—they&#039;re both a function of corporate culture. 

No one opens up when they know the messenger is likely to be killed, but when they are truly safe you won&#039;t be able to shut them up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Of course engagement/disengagement is organizational—they&#8217;re both a function of corporate culture. </p>
<p>No one opens up when they know the messenger is likely to be killed, but when they are truly safe you won&#8217;t be able to shut them up.</p>
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