Comments on: Make Love Not War: Stop the War for Talent Now! http://www.davidzinger.com/make-love-not-war-stop-the-war-for-talent-now-1176/ Engage 2020 -> Ensure Work Matters! Thu, 29 Jul 2010 12:33:37 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Scot Herrick http://www.davidzinger.com/make-love-not-war-stop-the-war-for-talent-now-1176/comment-page-1/#comment-1722 Scot Herrick Tue, 21 Oct 2008 05:03:46 +0000 http://www.davidzinger.com/?p=1176#comment-1722 "If you insist on using a war metaphor, the war we truly need to wage is not for talent — it is for integrity, trust, respect, authenticity, empathy, and caring in a workplace that also gets the job done!" If management does not recognize this, then there will never be employee engagement. Integrity means more than mouthing the words; it means living what the words mean. Average talent, with management integrity, will do far more more than superior talent with mouthing "employees make a competitive difference." Also. “If you insist on using a war metaphor, the war we truly need to wage is not for talent — it is for integrity, trust, respect, authenticity, empathy, and caring in a workplace that also gets the job done!”

If management does not recognize this, then there will never be employee engagement. Integrity means more than mouthing the words; it means living what the words mean.

Average talent, with management integrity, will do far more more than superior talent with mouthing “employees make a competitive difference.”

Also.

]]> By: David Zinger http://www.davidzinger.com/make-love-not-war-stop-the-war-for-talent-now-1176/comment-page-1/#comment-1715 David Zinger Thu, 16 Oct 2008 19:21:01 +0000 http://www.davidzinger.com/?p=1176#comment-1715 Ariane: You say it quite strongly. Hopefully the other side of this crisis is the ability to create caring and profitable organizations - organized around community rather than just commerce. David Ariane:
You say it quite strongly. Hopefully the other side of this crisis is the ability to create caring and profitable organizations – organized around community rather than just commerce.
David

]]> By: Ariane Benefit http://www.davidzinger.com/make-love-not-war-stop-the-war-for-talent-now-1176/comment-page-1/#comment-1714 Ariane Benefit Thu, 16 Oct 2008 18:17:18 +0000 http://www.davidzinger.com/?p=1176#comment-1714 What a neat post! I'm so with you on this. I HATE all the ways our media uses war as an analogy. Seems like its everywhere. Talent may indeed be harder to find and keep...but that's because the corporate workplace of today is often a joke. Most of the big corporations are so political, so focused on profits vs. doing the right thing, that it's no wonder many really Talented people choose to have their own businesses. I think all the big layoffs are in great part due to the greedy and corrupt people running the big corporations today. And in part due to the horrible legislation we in the U.S. have that requires corporations to show profits or they could actually be sued by the shareholders! I've actually consulted with CitiGroup/CitiBank - I would rather slice a vein than work there! : ) What a neat post! I’m so with you on this. I HATE all the ways our media uses war as an analogy. Seems like its everywhere. Talent may indeed be harder to find and keep…but that’s because the corporate workplace of today is often a joke.

Most of the big corporations are so political, so focused on profits vs. doing the right thing, that it’s no wonder many really Talented people choose to have their own businesses.

I think all the big layoffs are in great part due to the greedy and corrupt people running the big corporations today. And in part due to the horrible legislation we in the U.S. have that requires corporations to show profits or they could actually be sued by the shareholders!

I’ve actually consulted with CitiGroup/CitiBank – I would rather slice a vein than work there!

: )

]]> By: Job Hacking http://www.davidzinger.com/make-love-not-war-stop-the-war-for-talent-now-1176/comment-page-1/#comment-1713 Job Hacking Thu, 16 Oct 2008 15:54:40 +0000 http://www.davidzinger.com/?p=1176#comment-1713 <strong>Did you see the dead meme on the side of the economic highway?...</strong> RIP, "War on Talent"Several years back ,this was all the rage in recruiting. Big shortage of workers, companies fighting for employees, etc., etc.Hates it! First, analogies linking war to business are so 80's, and at the base, blatantly incorrect (B... Did you see the dead meme on the side of the economic highway?…

RIP, “War on Talent”Several years back ,this was all the rage in recruiting. Big shortage of workers, companies fighting for employees, etc., etc.Hates it! First, analogies linking war to business are so 80’s, and at the base, blatantly incorrect (B…

]]> By: David Zinger http://www.davidzinger.com/make-love-not-war-stop-the-war-for-talent-now-1176/comment-page-1/#comment-1712 David Zinger Thu, 16 Oct 2008 15:44:23 +0000 http://www.davidzinger.com/?p=1176#comment-1712 Peter: It is interesting how we often want to refer to humans as objects. I think it makes it easier to not treat them well at times and saves us from emotional connections...which may be no savings at all. David Peter:
It is interesting how we often want to refer to humans as objects. I think it makes it easier to not treat them well at times and saves us from emotional connections…which may be no savings at all.
David

]]> By: peter vajda http://www.davidzinger.com/make-love-not-war-stop-the-war-for-talent-now-1176/comment-page-1/#comment-1711 peter vajda Thu, 16 Oct 2008 15:37:49 +0000 http://www.davidzinger.com/?p=1176#comment-1711 Hi, David, IMHO, the use of the descriptor "talent" when referring to folks is simply another aspect of framing humans as "robots" and/or "functions"...devoid of any 'human' qualities...the same as when we refer to our partner, or spouse, not by name but by "wife" or "husband"...it's all about consciously or unconsciously objectifying someone. For manay, this objectification absolves them from their own discomfort with having to experience their emotional self. Hi, David,

IMHO, the use of the descriptor “talent” when referring to folks is simply another aspect of framing humans as “robots” and/or “functions”…devoid of any ‘human’ qualities…the same as when we refer to our partner, or spouse, not by name but by “wife” or “husband”…it’s all about consciously or unconsciously objectifying someone. For manay, this objectification absolves them from their own discomfort with having to experience their emotional self.

]]> By: David Zinger http://www.davidzinger.com/make-love-not-war-stop-the-war-for-talent-now-1176/comment-page-1/#comment-1710 David Zinger Thu, 16 Oct 2008 14:43:37 +0000 http://www.davidzinger.com/?p=1176#comment-1710 Dean, Thank you so much for joining the "peace" movement. I also appreciate your focus on the word talent for people. We are expendable when we are just talent or resources. And I don't want people to be machines. It is not so bad to hear a scream rather than always looking into a screen. David Dean,
Thank you so much for joining the “peace” movement. I also appreciate your focus on the word talent for people. We are expendable when we are just talent or resources. And I don’t want people to be machines. It is not so bad to hear a scream rather than always looking into a screen.
David

]]> By: A War for Talent Rant and When Life Throws You a Lemon…Duck! http://www.davidzinger.com/make-love-not-war-stop-the-war-for-talent-now-1176/comment-page-1/#comment-1709 A War for Talent Rant and When Life Throws You a Lemon…Duck! Thu, 16 Oct 2008 14:37:35 +0000 http://www.davidzinger.com/?p=1176#comment-1709 [...] Make Love Not War: Stop the War for Talent Now! A personal rant against the War for Talent. I have always been troubled by the so called “war for talent.” Now, I am beyond troubled, I am angry with the use of this metaphor for those of us who offer our best in organizations… [...] [...] Make Love Not War: Stop the War for Talent Now! A personal rant against the War for Talent. I have always been troubled by the so called “war for talent.” Now, I am beyond troubled, I am angry with the use of this metaphor for those of us who offer our best in organizations… [...]

]]> By: Dean http://www.davidzinger.com/make-love-not-war-stop-the-war-for-talent-now-1176/comment-page-1/#comment-1708 Dean Thu, 16 Oct 2008 14:37:08 +0000 http://www.davidzinger.com/?p=1176#comment-1708 How about if we spent the "war" time, effort, and other resources on creating the talent that we need? It seems to me there is a lot of latent talent lying in wait that could be developed by using the effort required to get out-of-the-box, turnkey talent. It also seems to me that using the word talent is a sad development. The talent is a person ... with all the things that come with people. Talent seems so machine like and people are not machines no matter how much we'd like them to be. I'm with you ... no more war. How about if we spent the “war” time, effort, and other resources on creating the talent that we need? It seems to me there is a lot of latent talent lying in wait that could be developed by using the effort required to get out-of-the-box, turnkey talent.

It also seems to me that using the word talent is a sad development. The talent is a person … with all the things that come with people. Talent seems so machine like and people are not machines no matter how much we’d like them to be.

I’m with you … no more war.

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