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I Ash You: How Toxic is Employee Engagement?

April 30, 2010 by David Zinger 4 Comments

An employee engagement bedtime story?


Mike Klein wrote a powerful and engaging toxicity report on employee engagement suggesting it might be time to say good night to employee engagement, perhaps even kill it while it is sleeping. Mike stated:

No way.  Indeed, it’s time to kill the term “employee engagement” and spread its ashes all over Iceland.  To our industry, it’s become no less toxic than the term “sub-prime mortgage” in the finance world….not hide behind a sweet-smelling but easy-to-see-through fig leaf called “employee engagement”.

Click here to read the full post and the many comments the post generated. It was very engaging.

I loved the conversation created and chimed in with my own perspective. Here is the comment I put on the site:

Mike:

This was a very engaging read.

There was passion, opinion, debate, perspective, villains, victims, bad terms, good terms, and even a little bit of discretion, even effort in that discretion.

I found it a thoroughly engaging conversation and Mike, I believe you are a master of stimulating that.

I personally have no problem with engagement at all. I loved how engaged everyone was here. I see engagement as connection and when we only connect the term to one concept (employee) that is disconcerting to me and a disservice to employees.

Employee engagement has become a common term and I have often suggested we change it and will be thrilled if you are successful in moving it in an altered direction. Yet I also believe hundreds of people on the employee engagement network have been striving to make work better for employees, managers, customers, organizations, leaders, etc. I don’t think they merely see it as – sucking discretionary effort out of overtaxed employees. They have provided wonderful examples of engagement. I am thinking of such fine people as Michael Stallard, Judy Bardwick, Mike Klein, Robert Morris, Ben Simonton, Terrence Seamon, Jonena Relth, Karen Schmidt, Abhishek Mittal, and I could go on and on.

Let’s never forget that managers and leaders are employees too (they sometimes forget this themselves). We certainly don’t need villains, victims, and helplessness in our workplaces and I need to guard myself against the possible “villainization” of the term: employee engagement.

Mike, you are one of the most engaged people in the field, you even belong, heaven forbid, to the employee engagement network and your voice is so much needed.

It is tough to see you say “goodnight” but every “goodnight” can be an entry point to a “good morning” so when I wake up and the workplace wakes to a new improved term please start a network with a new term and I would be delighted to join it because I know you are a good leader. Of course you also said good night with a question mark so maybe you haven’t put the term fully to rest yet!

In the interim, I am not prepared to give up on engagement and I hope not to shrink it down to a new term but to expand the concept so that it is engagement for the benefit of all and that we extend beyond a simple and simplistic focus on just employee engagement. Employee engagement, the concept, has provided the interest and impetus to have organizations get involved in some very meaningful practices and conversations to enhance work.

Thanks to all the participants (Dan, Kevin, Geoff, Jennifer, Sean, Asaad,Indy, Kristen, etc. in the comments) for making the last 40 minutes such an exquisite and engaging time for me.

I trust you will engage along with me and let me know about my blind spots, warts, and trusting innocence that we can enhance work in 2010. In closing, I really do see employee engagement not as a problem to be solved but as an experience to be lived fully by the employee (even the CEO who is an employee) for the benefit of all.

David

What do you think? Is employee engagement making an ash of itself? Is it a toxin or a sweet-smelling but easy-to-see-through fig leaf?

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David Zinger, M.Ed., is an employee engagement writer, educator, speaker, coach, and consultant. He offers exceptional contributions on employee engagement for leaders, managers, and employees. David founded and moderates the 2350 member Employee Engagement Network. His website offers 1000 posts/articles relating to employee engagement and reached over 1,000,000 page views in under 4 months in 2010. David is involved in the application of Enterprise 2.0 approaches to engagement and the precursor, creating engaging approaches to communication, collaboration, and community within Enterprise 2.0.

Book David for education, speaking, and coaching on engagement today for 2010.

Email: dzinger@shaw.ca  Phone 204 254 2130  Website: www.davidzinger.com

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Comments

  1. Sharon Leah says

    April 30, 2010 at 1:17 pm

    Is employee engagement making an ash of itself? No, but (expanding on your metaphor) the concept of employee engagement may be like a smoldering log that eventually turns to ash without ever warming the room.

    Thinking about this reminded me of something I read in Peter Senge’s The Fifth Discipline. He tells the story about how five distinct areas of development needed to take place–the final one was the development of wing flaps that help planes to land–before there was enough cumulative technology to make commercial flight possible.

    A lot of research has been done on employee engagement, or the lack thereof. Employers (and many employees) know it is important, but . . .

    Here’s my question: what’s missing in the current form of employee engagement that prevents it from supplying more heat and less ash?

  2. David Zinger says

    April 30, 2010 at 1:25 pm

    Sharon:

    Terrific comment and great question. I will stick with this for a bit and see what my response is.

    Off the top of my head I don’t think employees fully realize or experience the benefits of engagement for themselves.

    David

  3. Mike Klein says

    May 2, 2010 at 2:33 pm

    Responding to Sharon’s question–three things:

    1) Reciprocity–engagement has to be at least two way, and more accurately, multilateral and interconnected.

    2) Connect with outcomes and purposes–“engagement for engagement’s sake” can lead to a lot of wasted effort and commitment as it doesn’t account for how that engagement is channelled and incentivised

    3) Banish reliance on implicit incentives: these worked in the 1990’s and 2000’s when growth was essentially taken for granted. They will not work in a period of recession, outsourcing and cost-cutting, and attempts to use them in this environment could provoke a severe backlash.

    Best from Brussels,

    Mike Klein
    The Intersection/Commscrum

  4. David Zinger says

    May 2, 2010 at 2:49 pm

    Thanks Mike for carrying on this conversations in so many different ways on so many different locations.

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